Posted by
Dwayne Horner on Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:07:09 PM
Debate is over. It will help that Thompson had the last laugh of the night, will wash away some of the lackluster performance. Rudy did well with the audience on policy, but still he has to be stinging over the values voter reaction over the weekend. Huckabee speaks from the heart the most. Romney just seems he has to prove something and he doesn’t speak from the heart.
Rudy 8.5
Huckabee 8
Romney 5
Thompson 5
McCain 4
9:00 - Frank Luntz post shows again, Huckabee gets high marks. When he wasn't even asking about him, a few focus group members featured him as the winner...and they were Fred supporters going in. My recap had Rudy and Huckabee close, and it looks like the focus group agreed. One person said concise answers. I agree.
9:05 - Gotta love John McCain on Fox Post Debate Coverage. I gave him credit for this line about being tied up at the time, but come one, when Colmes asks him was that planned and he says no...no one believes him. Speaking of no one believing him he then said he is the most conservative candidate in the race. Senator, with all due respect, the spin isn't working and you I would have a hard time finding one poll that says you are the most conservative.
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Live Blogging during the debate…
Chris Wallace comes out with questions to Rudy and Mitt saying Thompson says they aren’t conservative enough. I think he wanted to cause a controversy but polls say they don’t want the candidates fighting amongst each other. Get people interested early as we battle the Sunday Night Football Game and Game 7 of the ALCS.
Thompson when asked if Romney switches his positions too much “We’ve got an hour and a half maybe they can work on it.” Thompson draws first laugh. “Mitt I didn’t know there was any room to the left of Ted Kennedy. Thompson talks about how Rudy agrees with Hillary more and more.
Giuliani “Fred has his problems too.” Rudy talks about lawsuit reform that Thompson has been against.
Does any of the other candidates get a voice? Seems so far Chris Wallace wants more show than anything else.
Finally a question to someone else… to McCain, but same line, who is more conservative….it’s getting old quick! McCain just goes talks about the past and not the future.
McCain: “Gov. Romney you’ve spent the last year trying to fool people on your record and I don’t need you trying to fool people on my record.”
Finally a question to someone other than Romney Thompson Giuliani, but to Paul? On Gay Marriage.
Huckabee, “I am not interested in fighting these guys I am interested in fighting for this Country” Seems he was speaking from the heart about America. Good answer and well received by the crowd.
Hunter, “You’ve spent the last ten minutes dividing the country, let me unite the party…” good line.
Finally a move to a different round of questions that talk about issues.
Ron Paul, he’s just annoying in his speaking. Reminds me of Mr. Hand from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
Hunter saying Romney’s plan added mandates and Romney says he tried to get as many reduced and reduced the individuals cost of health care.
Huckabee We have it backwards, we have a reactive system and not a proactive system. “When all the old hippies realize they get free drugs, just wait..” More laughs from the crowd.
Thompson was he wrong on voting the No Child Left Behind. Wasn’t clear if he felt like the vote was wrong, was he?!?!? Good line about we need more fathers to be involved and raising their children.
Giuliani on teachers, “there are bad ones, good ones, and great ones, but I care about the children more.” Good line.
It’s a break. Quick take Rudy answers are crisper, Romney still doesn’t seem to be personable, Thompson isn’t impressing and Huckabee seems to communicate with the crowd the most.
First question from Chris Wallace is basically she is beating everyone, to Romney is she fit to be President of the United States. A good response on this resume…there are times to talk what you’ve done. Wallace says he didn’t answer and gives him another shot and hits it out…No, she’s not. Then asks the crowd. Finally, speaking to the crowd and not over.
Wallace says that on social differences, they are the same and asks if it’s true: Giuliani “You’ve got to be kidding.” “I grew up a Yankee fan in NY and she did it in Chicago.” Brings up the quote from Hillary “We can’t afford you Hillary.” Great lines, major points to Rudy. Problem is, he agrees too much with Hillary and that is a valid point of criticism.
McCain has a great line about Hillary wanting spending earmark for Woodstock “I am sure it was a cultural an pharmaceutical event (with laughs) but I was tied up at the moment” that brought a standing ovation. Great answer.
Huckabee “Hillary brings a bigger emotion more noise than an Aerosmith concert” “nothing funny about Hillary being President”
Thompson Still seems like everything is scripted, he continues to look down at notes, pauses and too much. Message is good, but that bar is so high he can’t live up to it.
Cong. Paul, Senator Clinton is against the war, and you’re against the war, What’s the difference? Paul brings boos again when he attacks the war.
Thompson Bush isn’t the best public speaker but he was never expected to be. Thompson is doing a better job here because it seems it is coming from the heart and not the notes.
Romney it gets old hearing about his resume “I did this, did that” It’s like he’s trying to prove he deserves there. I understand a lot of America doesn’t know him, but it is still old.
Huckabee “the actuarial tables were designed for people to retire at 65 and die at 67. They’re not dying. Short of taking them out…” another good line. Putting it in human terms.
Ron “Mr Hand” Paul sounds like we are lecturing again.
McCain “I’m glad we’re not dying at 67, Governor” brings a laugh
Hunter I feel sorry for Cong. Hunter, he is a good man who really cares about America and he just can’t get any traction. He is very presidential. Brit says “You think we can solve Social Security and medicare entitlements with the Trade Deficit?” Good answer by Hunter understanding that it is part of a fiscal puzzle that when we fix one it helps others.
Break again. Again Giuliani connected with the crowd, still winning but Huckabee doing very well. Romney and Thompson still seem to be losing. McCain does well in spots.
McCain “When I looked into Putin’s eyes, I saw K G B.” Good line, but he had to start over so you could tell it was something he wanted to get in. Too scripted.
Thompson too many uh’s. Again, President Bush is not a articulate speaker but everyone thinks Fred Thompson is and it is an artificial bar he has to live up to.
Tancrerdo Good line about Pelosi being a bad Speaker of the House but a worse Secretary of State, but why is he there?
Huckabee, like Rudy, have a good understanding about PKK and Turkey.
Paul Sometimes I understand what he is saying and trying to be good to what the Founders wanted, but it’s like finger nails on a chalk board. He garners a round of boos, he’s just so isolationistic.
Romney good talk about the failings of the UN and what Bill Clinton did, reducing our military.
Paul gets the question whether the GOP has left Paul or the candidates on the stage have changed the GOP where he has to leave. Again some of what he says is right but the rest is so overwhelmingly wrong that he just like that strange Grandpa that no one wants to be around. Mr. Hand!
Thompson gets the question of being lazy, taking time off, and such…I can’t wait for this answer. Good job on using this to talk about his resume, strongest point in the debate for him. “If a man can do all that and be lazy, I recommend it.” Great line, except then he interrupts Brit Hume as he is closing…not smart.